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Discussion in 'How To' started by adser, Dec 9, 2018.

By adser on Dec 9, 2018 at 4:25 AM
  1. adser

    adser Active Member

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    Hi Folks
    As usual, Terry's work has inspired me to try a bit harder again. In this case, his thread about the flex Bonegrip, specifically the super clean way it came out of the mould. No flash and no visible lines means far less time spent polishing it after. So I went and bought myself some more silicone to try and am ready to try again, but I thought would reacquaint myself with various techniques, and maybe get some tips from the pro's here.
    So far, I have tried pouring the whole thing in one go, and cutting it out using a zig zag pattern. While that is the quickest to make, it is very difficult to line it up, as the zig zag only lines up vertically. horizontally, it is very difficult to get it right, so you get some fairly big lines in that one.
    Next I tried pouring a layer of silicone on the bottom of the mould, when that cures, I put the frame in and poured more silicone in up to half way, and the rest after it cured. This is relatively easy to do , but due to the way the silicone rises, it is impossible to be at a right angle with the frame, so the last layer has to do a lot of work to get in all the nooks and crannies...so mould lines. Also, if the slingshot has a flat surface, you need to pour the second part in while the silicone is still slightly soft, as it cannot get in under the frame's round bevel...lots of sanding to do after...
    I have seen a popular method where half the frame is buries in putty, while the other is covered in silicone, then flipped over and finished off on the other side. I have not tried this yet, as I am not sure I have the putty skill to do it right...maybe if I watch some detailed videos...who knows...
    Lastly, my own idea, which should technically leave no lines at all: frame goes in the mould, maybe over a still slightly soft silicone bed. next to the frame are cylinders that reach higher that the end silicone level. Pour the whole lot in one go after that, and you will end up with a silicone block that has cylinders going all the way through, so those parts will be hollow when the cylinders are removed. Next, zig zag cut the mould in two, all the way so there are two separate parts. To put it back together, reinserting the cylinders in the holes will act like the index pieces, as will the zig zag, so it should fit together really well, I hope, and there would be no discrepancies between the two halves, as there was no separate pouring done...
    I made a crude drawing of how I imagine it to look.
    Any thought s? Any tips will be appreciated.
    Thanks
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Discussion in 'How To' started by adser, Dec 9, 2018.

    1. william wallace

      william wallace Active Member

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      Here’s a pic of mine done in two halves
       

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      You made it in Lego? Awesome! Seems like a very cost effective, quick way to create a box. Looks like you did it with clay. What kind of lines does you piece get?
       
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      Very thin line
      Think it will always happen when under pressure in the pot
      I cut two pieces of quarter inch ply one either side of the mold
      And duct tape it tightly not to tight or you will distort the mold
      This way works for me
       
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      Sounds about the same as what I'm doing. I guess my mould just needs to be improved. I love the Lego idea
       
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      well good on you for making a mold...
      akaOldmiser
       
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      I guess I gotta start somewhere...
       
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      Hope you find success in this venture i have never taken on a mold but its intriguing to hear about thanks
       
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      Thank you. It is certainly a long road full of questions, and....costs
       
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      Build your mold box and suspend the part between both halfs of the mold level. Pour half the mold with the locators in position rather it be zigzag or acorn nuts it doesn't matter. The more the better with locators. Because the mold will be under pressure make it extra thick to maintain its integrity of its structure holding the parting lines more even. Remember that the pressure take the easiest route. So that ups the mold cost at least double from what you think.
      It you do the clay thing it will be half ass at best.
       
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      How do you keep the suspended model from rising
      Won’t the silicone try to float it up
       
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      I suspend it with a screw at the pour spot of the master part. So from the outside of the mold box I run a screw through it into my part. The pour spout or spruce must be pretty square and strong to do this.
       
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      So the slingshot is lying suspended horizontally by the screw in the box, and you just pour until you reach half way? Then when cured, spray and pour the other half? That seems similar to how I did it, but because there was nothing to stop the silicone half way along the frame, it just settled with a sort of bevel, so the second half had to somehow make its way into the tiny space left around the frame.
      What do you think about my last idea to pour the hole thing in one go, and have locators going all the way through?
      As always, thanks for the tips, Terry, I think you are responsible for so many people being better at building slingshots, and probably other things too.
       
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      Bone Veteran Member Staff Member Moderator Admin

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      I have poured them all at once but cutting it open always proved to be a mess and not reliable but can work good.
      Thanks and keep it up. It will get better.
       
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      Well, a new batch of silicone was delivered today, so I best get on it tomorrow, and see what I can come up with
       
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      I'm fighting through the sand and polishing process of my ne bone grip right now quite a job !
       
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      Lol...don't hate me.
       
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      I have found Abarnet abrasives to be good for that, and wet sand paper. Dry seems to take longer
       
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